Thursday, September 14, 2006

Kimveer Gill was here

I was going back over Steve Huff's entry on Kimveer Gill seeing what comments he was getting. Steve had updated his entry and I read something that made my heart drop...
UPDATE, 5:52 p.m. EDT

Kimveer Gill, as you might expect, didn’t just start aping the style and mannerisms of past psychos like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. He probably had been going down the deadly road he was on for quite some time.

To my surprise, I found posts by Gill (and at this point, for all I know, others have already found these as well — this story promises to be very heavily covered by everyone because the guy had an online journal) on the Usenet.

Gill used the Yahoo address rogue_warrior_50@yahoo.ca, and in November of 2005, he posted to this newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/aps-global-solutions/.
I knew that e-mail address well. rogue_warrior_50@yahoo.ca had left comments on this very site. I understand that you're skeptical. I would be too. Let me provide some photographic proof for you. This is a picture of my blog's control panel...


He went by the name Rogue and left the following comments...

On an entry about Christopher Penley, the Florida teen who was shot and killed at his school for brandishing a pellet gun at police, entitled "Was lethal force justified?", Gill left this comment...
The police used extreme force. It's completely unacceptable. The Rebel was moving the gun in all directions, very fast. He didn't once point, steady, stance and aim it. He was just swinging it around. And everyone knows you can't kill someone like that, if you're moving it around, at the sky, and whatever. No shots were fired by the young Rebel, he didn't even hurt anyone.

That cop is a coward. He was attacked earlier in his life. And ever since that he has become paranoid, and scared. Like a girl after she gets raped. Afraid of everything and everyone. The police had been told earlier that it wasn't even a real gun. They didn't even mention that on T.V.

The police kill another innocent person
This comment was left on an entry about a high school murder plot...
I don't understand what's wrong with this country. Two schoolgirls were playing around, joking if you will, and now they're going to go to jail, just for a joke.

When I was in High School people would say they were going to kill each other all the time, no one got in trouble.

Why have the masses on this earth turned into cowards?
Where are the warriors
This comment on an entry about a teen who made a threat that he was going to use a pitchfork in a school attack...
A student at school makes a joke, and the police spend all their resources to stop him. "A little joke"

The young lad was just letting off some steam. Give him a break. Come on, where's your sense of humour?

Nobody goes on a killing spree with a pitchfork.

The country is full of child molesters, priests, rapists, and child molesting priests. Can we perhaps take them off the streets before spending all law enforcement resources on a teenager's prank.

You people make me sick
This comment on an entry about a Florida teen that threatened to shoot up his school...
Poor Christopher
He did nothing wrong
Commit no crime

And now they've sent him to prison
It's just not right
Well at least we can rest easy that this young lad will be free and back to his old tricks in a few short months

Here's hopin'
This comment on an entry about a teen from Michigan who got in trouble for printing out a bomb threat on his school computer...
I can't believe the school would over-react like that. Children at school can't even joke around anymore. And for the police to go along with this, I mean, come on.....this is shocking.

They're slowly turning the country into a police state

My friends and I have said things like that at when we were still in school, and we never thought we would go to jail for it. I don't understand what kind of society this is. I thought we had freedom of speech.

IT'S JUST A JOKE PEOPLE, DAMN.....
This comment on my first post about the Riverton, Kansas school shooting plot...

I had a feeling someone was going to try to do something like this on the 20th of this month. The cops got it all wrong. They wern't going to do it for real. They're just kids having a little fun. I hope the pigs don't actually give them a fine or 2 weeks in jail, cuz' that would be an injustice.

If they were really going to do this, they would not be posting messages on MySpace and telling people in their school about it.

I can't believe the police have nothing better to do than waste tax payers money on stuff like this. I mean come on now......Boys will be boys
This comment on an entry about a threat made by a student that he claimed was a joke...
Why would the student face disciplinary action?

It's just a joke......we're sending our kids to jail, and ruining their lives over silly childhood pranks

The governments really going over board here

It's time to take the power back
This comment on an entry about a Washington State teen who was arrested for planning his own school shooting plot...
How can the police arrest this young rebel, and send him to jail? He hasn't done anything wrong. Many teenagers feel isolated and alone, and for such a reason they may create an imaginary reality within their own mind, such as shooting people.

If he was really going to kill alot of people then he wouldn't be telling people he was going to do it. It's just common sense. I believe he just wanted a little attention, nothing more.

Lets hope he gets outta jail soon, and the police give him back the guns the seized
For that comment I banned him from leaving comments on my site.

The last time I heard from him was from an e-mail he sent me which you can see here.

Thursday, April 27, 2006

4/27/06 From The Mail Sack

It's been a while since we dipped into the mail sack. All the mutants just seem to be repeating themselves so I haven't been inclined to respond. Until today when I received an e-mail that made my jaw drop from the sheer stupidity of it. It's from someone that calls themself Rogue. Rogue has been previously banned for saying that they should give back a would be school shooters weapons. Anyway, you're not going to believe this one...

Hi

Cool page. Like what you do here. But I find you only look at the story one way. Not once have I read a comment you've made, about even one of these school shootings being acceptable, or needed.

Did you use to be a police officer or something?


I'm not even going to respond to that one. I'm just going to let it stand on it's own merits, or lack thereof.

Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Teen arrested in Washington plot

Deputies find guns, bomb after hearing of student's shooting plot:

When Pierce County sheriff's deputies confronted a 16-year-old Puyallup boy Sunday morning, they say, he detailed his step-by-step plan to use a handgun and a rifle to randomly kill classmates this Wednesday at Rogers High School.

The teen planned to "randomly select 15 people [to shoot] and save the last round for himself," said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer. He would leave only one magazine remaining, court papers say, "because that is all that he needed."

Sunday morning, deputies seized two rifles, two handguns, ammunition and a homemade pipe bomb from the student's home in the 9400 block of 137th Street East. It's believed the teen, charged Monday with attempted assault, was working alone in a plot to kill at least 15 people at the Puyallup school before shooting himself, Troyer said.

The district learned of the plan from the school's ROTC commander, Troyer said. The suspect, who is in the ROTC program, had sent at least one cellphone text message to a fellow ROTC member outlining what was going to occur, Troyer said.

Deputies reviewed the text messages, which included the following statement: "To finally go out in a blaze of hatred and fury ... to wrongly hurt others for my own sick pleasure before ending it for myself."

The teen planned to take a .22-caliber rifle and a handgun with 15 rounds into the school because they were easy to conceal, according to authorities. He was allegedly going to swipe the firearms from his stepfather's gun cabinet.

The suspect "wanted people to feel his pain, and he wanted to be hated, not having earned respect in the past," Troyer said.

The 16-year-old has been booked into Remann Hall juvenile jail in Tacoma on suspicion of assault and manufacture of an incendiary device.


And let's throw in the usual excuse while we're at it...

James Mazza, associate professor in the University of Washington's College of Education, said kids who lash out through school violence often "are victimized by bullying."

"They have exhausted their repertoire of coping strategies," said Mazza, whose specialty is school psychology. "When kids have such access to guns, it becomes a coping strategy."


Even though the article never mentions bullying as the motive. It just said he didn't earn respect.

And this has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read...

Mazza said most kids who concoct violent plots likely have been "on the radar screen" of school faculty for years. But, he said, many schools lack money to provide students with mental-health help.


It shouldn't be the school's job to provide mental health help for your kids. It's your job as a parent to provide it.

In a perfect world parents would take more responsibility for their children then bullying and school shootings wouldn't be a problem.

As always it was your pleasure.

Friday, April 21, 2006

Jokethreat in Pennsylvania

Local Student Writes Threat On Bathroom Wall:

BRENTWOOD, Pa. -- A Brentwood High School student is in trouble for writing a threat on the bathroom wall.

Extra police were on campus for the start of the school day Friday morning.

This after school security discovered a Columbine-like statement in a bathroom stall on Thursday.

The district evacuated the building, but found nothing.

Police said a student admitted to making the threat as a prank.

That student will now face disciplinary action.


And a lifetime of...




Is it funny now?

Thursday, April 20, 2006

School shooting plot uncovered in Kansas

Cops: Kansas School Shooting Foiled After MySpace Messages Intercepted:
Five teenagers from Riverton High School in Riverton, Kansas were arrested after their plans to shoot up the school were discovered on...where else...MySpace...

Sheriff's deputies found guns, ammunition, knives and coded messages in the bedroom of one suspect, Sheriff Steve Norman said. Authorities also found documents about firearms in two suspects' school lockers.

"What the resounding theme is: They were actually going to do this," Norman said.

Norman said he would ask prosecutors to bring charges of conspiracy to commit murder against the teens, ages 16 to 18. He said the state attorney general would handle the prosecution.

Deputies' interviews with the suspects indicated they planned to wear black trench coats and disable the school's camera system before starting the attack between noon and 1 p.m. Thursday, Norman said. The suspects apparently had been plotting since the beginning of the school year.

Officials at Riverton High School began investigating on Tuesday after learning that a threatening message had been posted on MySpace.com, he said.

"The message, it was brief, but it stated that there was going to be a shooting at the Riverton school and that people should wear bulletproof vests and flakjackets," Norman said.

School officials identified the student who posted the message and talked to several of his friends, Norman said.

But Riverton school district Superintendent David Walters said the significance of the threat didn't become clear until Wednesday night, after a woman in North Carolina who had chatted with one of the suspects on Myspace.com received a list of about a dozen potential victims, including at least one staff member. She notified authorities in her state, who contacted the sheriff's department, Norman said.


And let's throw in the required excuse while we're at it...

Norman said that the potential victims were popular students and that the suspects may have been bullied.

"I think there was probably some bullying, name calling, chastising," he said.


Because as we all know the rational answer to bullying is mass murder. That was sarcasm in case you couldn't tell.

More on this as information becomes available.

Wednesday, March 29, 2006

More on the latest Chippewa Valley threat

Chippewa Valley Student Faces Felony Charges:

We have more news on the threat made at Chippewa Valley High in Michigan that I told you about here. The suspect is 17-year-old Joe Coppage and he says the threat was....wait for it....a joke.

While in science class, Coppage typed a message that said "I have a giant BOMB. I’m blowing up the school." He tried to print the message, but the printer jammed and the teacher discovered the threat.

Coppage claimed it was just a prank, but prosecutors said the message is nothing to laugh at and hope other students will get the message. They said he was angry at his teacher when he typed the message.


What does he get for his joke?

Coppage faced felony charges in court and will be tried as an adult. His bond was set at $10,000.


How funny is it now?

Sunday, February 19, 2006

Slap on the wrist

Troubled teen pleads to weapons charges:
15-year-old Christopher Rodriguez of Clearwater HIgh School in Florida is known to his classmates as "Nazi". He made comments to his teacher that he always carried a knife and asked questions like "Why do you sit me next to people that I want to shoot?" When confronted by the principal in January if he had any weapons Rodriguez produced brass knuckles and a ski mask. Also a sheet of paper was found that had two columns on it, "Likes" and "Dislikes"...

Beneath the first column, the paper was blank.

Beneath the second heading, he had written a long list of racial and ethnic groups.


When police went to his house they found a mini arsenal that included a Russian SKS semiautomatic rifle and a .22-caliber derringer with a homemade silencer.

His computer contained many visits to "white power" sites and a cache of videos of authentic executions. He also had in his possession a copy of the surveillance tape from the Columbine massacre.

God only knows what this little racist ball of hate was planning and what does he get?

As a result, Christopher Rodriguez has been committed for an indefinite period to a juvenile justice facility in New Port Richey that specializes in teenagers who need mental health counseling.

As a result of the plea worked out Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge Marion Fleming ordered Rodriguez sent to the Mandala Adolescent Treatment Center, a secure facility which specializes treating teenage boys who need counseling for mental problems.

The New Port Richey facility holds up to 33 boys ages 14-18, who are all required to wear uniforms.

The average length of stay is six to nine months, according to the Department of Juvenile Justice.


Pathetic.

Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Colo. teen arrested for IM threat

Teen Arrested For IM Warnings About School Attack:
Fort Lupton teen held for threatening Columbine-style attack:
A teen from Fort Lupton, Colorado was arrested yesterday for making an IM threat against his school. According to the articles the 17-year-old warned a female student not to go to school on Valentine's Day because the suspect said he would attack other students with a gun or a pitchfork...

Pitchfork??? Really??? That's a new one on me.

Anyway, the girl told her parents, the parents told police, the police contacted the FBI, and the FBI was able to track the suspect down arresting him and seizing 3 computers from his home. He's now facing charges of interfering with an educational institution.

No motive or french fry related options were mentioned.

Tuesday, January 31, 2006

High School Girls Arrested in Murder Plot

High School Girls Accused In Murder Plot:
Two girls were suspended from high school on Friday after they were arrested on charges of plotting to kill a female student and dispose of her body.

Jerrica Lee Garn and Rachel Whitmore face felony charges, NBC 4's Mike Bowersock reported.

The two girls, age 15, are students at Clear Fork High School in Belleville.

The threats allegedly were both verbal and written in the form of passed notes.

The Richland County sheriff told the Mansfield News Journal on Monday that there were a series of verbal and written threats and that they were more substantiated than other threats.


No details yet on the motive.

However this is believed to be one of the suspect's MySpace. It's a "friends only" MySpace. It shows the last log in was 1/26/06 which was the night before they were arrested.

More details as they become available.

TOF to LiLO.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006

Was lethal force justified?

Some Question Whether Deputy Was Justified In Shooting:
Some people have been leaving comments on my site asking if lethal force was justified in the police shooting of Christopher Penley. Maybe this article will answer some of those questions...

Mike Weippert received the Purple Heart after he was stabbed in the line of duty and needed more than 200 stitches on his face. Ten years later, Weippert is again being attacked, this time for his use of lethal force on a 15-year-old student.

"Twenty years on sheriff's office, 17 years on SWAT. It's a difficult situation for a lot of people," said Sheriff Don Eslinger.

The decorated SWAT member, who volunteered to talk with elementary and middle schools, isn't talking. But others are wondering out loud, why not a Taser instead of a gun?

"I understand the distance wasn't conducive to the utilization of a Taser and, plus, when I guess a firearm is pointed, a Taser is not necessarily the most appropriate means to deal with that," Sheriff Eslinger said.


Now I'm not a cop but think about it. Christopher Penley brandished an authentic looking gun. Before the standoff with police he had held another student hostage. Then when confronted by police he held the gun to his own head then raised it at police like he was going to fire. The police had no way of knowing if the gun was real or not even if Christopher Penley's father did get word to them. His dad can say it's a fake but there's no real way of knowing until the weapon is in police hands. And even if the distance was conducive to using a taser if an officer used a taser on an armed subject there's no way to guarantee the suspect wouldn't pull the trigger firing wildly.

It was an unfortunate and tragic incident but I think the police did the best job they could.