Thursday, September 14, 2006

Kimveer Gill was here

I was going back over Steve Huff's entry on Kimveer Gill seeing what comments he was getting. Steve had updated his entry and I read something that made my heart drop...
UPDATE, 5:52 p.m. EDT

Kimveer Gill, as you might expect, didn’t just start aping the style and mannerisms of past psychos like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. He probably had been going down the deadly road he was on for quite some time.

To my surprise, I found posts by Gill (and at this point, for all I know, others have already found these as well — this story promises to be very heavily covered by everyone because the guy had an online journal) on the Usenet.

Gill used the Yahoo address, and in November of 2005, he posted to this newsgroup:
I knew that e-mail address well. had left comments on this very site. I understand that you're skeptical. I would be too. Let me provide some photographic proof for you. This is a picture of my blog's control panel...

He went by the name Rogue and left the following comments...

On an entry about Christopher Penley, the Florida teen who was shot and killed at his school for brandishing a pellet gun at police, entitled "Was lethal force justified?", Gill left this comment...
The police used extreme force. It's completely unacceptable. The Rebel was moving the gun in all directions, very fast. He didn't once point, steady, stance and aim it. He was just swinging it around. And everyone knows you can't kill someone like that, if you're moving it around, at the sky, and whatever. No shots were fired by the young Rebel, he didn't even hurt anyone.

That cop is a coward. He was attacked earlier in his life. And ever since that he has become paranoid, and scared. Like a girl after she gets raped. Afraid of everything and everyone. The police had been told earlier that it wasn't even a real gun. They didn't even mention that on T.V.

The police kill another innocent person
This comment was left on an entry about a high school murder plot...
I don't understand what's wrong with this country. Two schoolgirls were playing around, joking if you will, and now they're going to go to jail, just for a joke.

When I was in High School people would say they were going to kill each other all the time, no one got in trouble.

Why have the masses on this earth turned into cowards?
Where are the warriors
This comment on an entry about a teen who made a threat that he was going to use a pitchfork in a school attack...
A student at school makes a joke, and the police spend all their resources to stop him. "A little joke"

The young lad was just letting off some steam. Give him a break. Come on, where's your sense of humour?

Nobody goes on a killing spree with a pitchfork.

The country is full of child molesters, priests, rapists, and child molesting priests. Can we perhaps take them off the streets before spending all law enforcement resources on a teenager's prank.

You people make me sick
This comment on an entry about a Florida teen that threatened to shoot up his school...
Poor Christopher
He did nothing wrong
Commit no crime

And now they've sent him to prison
It's just not right
Well at least we can rest easy that this young lad will be free and back to his old tricks in a few short months

Here's hopin'
This comment on an entry about a teen from Michigan who got in trouble for printing out a bomb threat on his school computer...
I can't believe the school would over-react like that. Children at school can't even joke around anymore. And for the police to go along with this, I mean, come on.....this is shocking.

They're slowly turning the country into a police state

My friends and I have said things like that at when we were still in school, and we never thought we would go to jail for it. I don't understand what kind of society this is. I thought we had freedom of speech.

This comment on my first post about the Riverton, Kansas school shooting plot...

I had a feeling someone was going to try to do something like this on the 20th of this month. The cops got it all wrong. They wern't going to do it for real. They're just kids having a little fun. I hope the pigs don't actually give them a fine or 2 weeks in jail, cuz' that would be an injustice.

If they were really going to do this, they would not be posting messages on MySpace and telling people in their school about it.

I can't believe the police have nothing better to do than waste tax payers money on stuff like this. I mean come on now......Boys will be boys
This comment on an entry about a threat made by a student that he claimed was a joke...
Why would the student face disciplinary action?

It's just a joke......we're sending our kids to jail, and ruining their lives over silly childhood pranks

The governments really going over board here

It's time to take the power back
This comment on an entry about a Washington State teen who was arrested for planning his own school shooting plot...
How can the police arrest this young rebel, and send him to jail? He hasn't done anything wrong. Many teenagers feel isolated and alone, and for such a reason they may create an imaginary reality within their own mind, such as shooting people.

If he was really going to kill alot of people then he wouldn't be telling people he was going to do it. It's just common sense. I believe he just wanted a little attention, nothing more.

Lets hope he gets outta jail soon, and the police give him back the guns the seized
For that comment I banned him from leaving comments on my site.

The last time I heard from him was from an e-mail he sent me which you can see here.


  1. :shock: This is bloody creepy, my friend. I see that I even responded to his comments once (the Michigan bomb threat sent to printer).

    I wonder if... maybe... he stole his nick name from you... the bastard!

    BTW, have you seen the latest statement on vampirefreaks dot com?

  2. I hate this world
    I hate the people in it
    I hate the way people live
    I hate god
    I hate the deceivers
    I hate betrayers
    I hate religious zealots
    I hate everything
    I hate so much
    (I could write 1000 more lines like these, but does it really matter, does a...

  3. The more I think about it, the more it freaks me out. Well told, by the way.

  4. Thanks Steve. I am a little freaked out about it.

  5. For the next Rebel wanna be who might read here. It's been done already, all right? To do it again makes ya nothing more than a copycat.
    Want to do something original? Walk into the nearest police station and tell them three times- arrest me before I shoot somebody.....that one hasn't been done yet!

  6. When seeing all of his comments in a row like that, I am struck by the redundancy of them, his anger, bitterness and obvious agenda of hate. I guess it also looks apparent in hindsight that he was truly dangerous, because of that one track mind of his, but as Steve said in his entry, how do we sort out the ones who are voicing serious threats vs. the ones talking out of the side of their mouth? Aye, there's the rub. This entry is a real eye opener, Trench.

  7. My heart dropped for you just reading that.

  8. From Kimveer's VF bloggings:

    Undercover police officers February 15, 2006, 10:57:am

    The police are watching me. They actually think I don't know this. They are monitering my movements.

    Hey pigs....You shouldn't be pretending to be nice little goth girls, and doing surveilance on people....It's just not nice.
    Music:Disturbed - Get Psycho

  9. investigators has taken down site. I don´t know why, but it has something do with Kimveer.

  10. I can only find one reference to him in the Gothmetal Google cache, though, and it's just a calendar page from last year.

    Then again, he could have used his screen name.

    Interestingly, his Vampirefreaks blog has been edited. The posts he made after waking up on the 13th are gone.

  11. yet another shooting, kinda surprised it was canada, usually the americans lead the way. anyway, the reason im posting, im irish, living in ireland etc. for some reason school shootings interest me, not in a good way more of a wtf is wrong with these people way,its always blamed on the music, the bullying etc. but it has to go deeper then that, theres bullying in ireland(barely any in secondary schools(americans call it high school) theres goths, trench coat wearers etc, all the supposide troubled teenagers that every where has, yet how many school shootings-zero.guns are illegal here yes but you can still get them, there illegal for kids in america too but look what happens there. i dunno what it is with the kids in america but from what ive heard and seen whle in america the bullying can be very extreme. normally the big picking on the little guy. now here theres your normal cliqes at school, the metallers, sporty guys, nerds etc but theres no bullying from secondary on.why? if you dont like someone you just dont talk to them, you have your own friends,they have theirs and we get along. hell i was a metaller and played more sports then anyone else and got on with both groups. America has major problems there, and untill its sorted(it never will lets be honest) theres gonna be more shootins, more killings and more pointless deaths, one thing that hasnt come up here yet as far as i know is, after this canadian shooting........will the canadians follow suit and more copy cat killers in canada happen, the smart money is on a yeah

    sorry bout the spelling, punctuation and general messiness of the rants, once i got going it just spilled out lol

  12. Meda, uber, hyper creepy. The fact that you got e-mail from this asshole and that you banned him from your site is really something. Perhaps more banned folks should be looked at by the authorities?

  13. gotta thank steve for sending me here -

    amazing. glad you banned the guy. fascinating email as well. puts a whole new light on the phrase "devil's advocate," doesn't it?

    reminds me of a friend who once got a ride home with a co-worker. The driver looks at my friends, points to the man in the back seat, and says, "I'd like you to meet Arthur Shawcross." Three years later he was sh*tting his pants.

  14. The dude is like a broken record. He occasionally seemed to make a point (assuming his facts were correct, I didn't bother to check them.) but simple repetition of the "it was a joke" argument starts to sound really hollow after the first few times.

  15. Thank you for your feedback. :-)

  16. hey trench! I see the eager hordes massing under your richous arm, pathetic weak people degrading themselves with childish embarassing jokes in their sad attempt to impress you and hope you'll respond with an encourging word so they can feel good about themselves, They are just maggots lookin for a piece of the pie. youv got the webpage. they wish they had it. OH! lets compliment Trench and hope he replies wittly! I want him to be my cyber friend because I need resuarence. You probadely wear a suit seeing as I consider you a souless member of the masses. Now, for the cliche, mock my spelling, call me a mutant and dont show this message so your cyber wannibie groupies wont feel bad about being so mind numbingly norm. And yes i did say mock my spelling, cus i know thats all you got. Thats all you ever got.

  17. such anger,such hate in your epost. no love, no heart,no god.

  18. ... naw ... mr.trench, don't be freaked out about him comeing to and posting on your site, ... he came here because he was looking for an answer to something, ... he also felt comfortable posting to you but your replies failed him. ... don't worry about that either .... lllooottss of people failed him ...

  19. .... i have a Q for you, answer if you wanna fill in my personal blanks. Out of the 8 posted comments you posted, you highlighted only 2 that show an IP address, those numbers change,suggesting that they might not be from the same computer. Tell me do the IP addresses change for the rest of the comments? as well as the email he sent you? did he send you lots of emails?


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